XCOM 2
[WOTC] Less Overwatch Lock Ups!
158 Comments
Gerarderloper 1 Jun @ 1:44am 
@LightenedDark
If you ever found a fix let me know. A good mod to test this sort of melee action pause issue is with Duke Nukem Squadmate mod where you can get him as a covert mission. When you do his knuckle duster or similar attack, it pauses for like 6seconds or more.

Could be some other issue affecting this. I've recently rebuilt my xcom2 lwotc loadout and will be testing again after many fixes and optimizations done.
Kaldin 15 Sep, 2024 @ 8:37pm 
@Makk: I remember those issues when I was playing the game almost vanilla briefly after release, just very few visual mods I used back then...though they've definitely become more over time. Might either be just general amount of mods(RAM footprint) or just that it's more often happening in WOTC maybe.
Mind you, I had a pretty bad computer back then though, just 8GB of RAM even.
Makk 15 Sep, 2024 @ 7:17pm 
@Dragon32 So what mods could raise this issue? Is that even a old bug in vanilla game? I don't recall many situation like this one when I enter the game years ago... Thanks.
Dragon32 15 Sep, 2024 @ 4:01am 
@Makk
The visualiser can get out of step, troopers falling through floors before the fuel tank blows up and the like. This mod is trying to reduce soft locks, not the occasional purely visual hiccup.
Makk 14 Sep, 2024 @ 8:01pm 
Enemies die before my soldiers' overwatch animation complete, is that a knowing issue?
Ludwig, Shadow Protogen 18 Aug, 2024 @ 5:51am 
Would you mind if you can update this for Undying Loyalty dark event?
I had a soldier killed an Advent trooper with overwatch shot, then undying loyalty triggered.
However, the corpse needs to slowly drop dead to the ground, before doing the undead reanimation animation.
LightenedDark 4 Aug, 2024 @ 3:56pm 
@Dragon32 I am already using that mod (and lots of rapid fire soldiers). The slash lag is usually the worst upon the first (wakashi's lighning) slash of the mission. Just now I counted out a full 26 second lockup that I thought was a crash, but it wasn't.
Dragon32 31 Jul, 2024 @ 11:09am 
LightenedDark 31 Jul, 2024 @ 8:05am 
Not a lock-up, but does anyone get large lag in between ordering a slash to when the unit soldier moving?
_Zee 10 Jun, 2024 @ 6:13pm 
This is a godsend. You literally can't use soldiers with Multi-Overwatch perks without this mod, thank you for this critical bugfix.
aredenrare 7 Jun, 2024 @ 2:09pm 
Thanks for tips, but already using the redux. Got past the Lost and abandoned, and there`s been no problems so far......
Dragon32 7 Jun, 2024 @ 8:12am 
@aredenrare
I've heard of people having problems with the Lost & Abandoned mission when running the original Lifetime Stats mod (although I never did). If you're using that try switching to Rusty's Redux version.
Kaldin 6 Jun, 2024 @ 6:01pm 
Weird indeed. Good luck finding which one it is.
aredenrare 6 Jun, 2024 @ 5:51pm 
Yeah, apparently false alarm. Got the tips it could be this mod, and the cutscene with "escort skirmisher" played after I disabled this mod. Started a new game without it, and then same problem but now on first act, "escort Reaper". Weird...........
Kaldin 6 Jun, 2024 @ 1:19pm 
@aredenrare: I used this mod recently on a fresh campaign and the cutscene did play for me. It's possible that there's some weird mod conflict going, making the cutscene not play on your end.
aredenrare 6 Jun, 2024 @ 1:12pm 
Quick message. This mod made cinematic cutscreens not playing. In the first escort skirmisher mission, you may get stuck. I deactivated the mod, and everything went as normal.
michael199310 3 Dec, 2023 @ 5:57am 
Still getting some lock ups, especially with enemies like Bio Vipers (exploding on death) and perks like Close Combat Specialist.
Robob 9 Apr, 2023 @ 3:29am 
There still seems to be a lockup when an unit dies from overwatch fire with the "undying loyalty" dark event and spawns a zombie
Dragon32 19 Mar, 2023 @ 11:25am 
@zin
I seem to remember that mod doesn't work with WotC
zin 19 Mar, 2023 @ 11:06am 
Is this mod compatible with robojumper’s various speed-ups? Link: https://sp.zhabite.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=746389497
BottomScorer 6 Jan, 2023 @ 5:54am 
One Steam tag should be sufficient!

War of the Chosen

NOT war of the chosen!
NOT WotC!
Annei 6 Aug, 2022 @ 4:15pm 
100% fixed an issue I was having.
Alan 22 Mar, 2022 @ 6:21pm 
X2DebugVisualizers shows dozens of green squares, but none of them seem to say Clear Hangs.
Dragon32 19 Dec, 2021 @ 3:46am 
@Riekopo
No
Riekopo 19 Dec, 2021 @ 3:16am 
this isn't in community highlander?
BottomScorer 1 Oct, 2021 @ 1:45pm 
Please add new Steam tag "War of the Chosen" here.
Caine 7 Sep, 2021 @ 5:39pm 
Is there any chance this mod is affecting the cinematic lockups on the Skirmisher's Justice and Wrath abilities? I'm wondering because for some reason, both of those skills will lockup for roughly 30 seconds, and often, especially in the case of Wrath, the Skirmisher will not be in the proper spot next to its target.
If the mod isn't affecting these two skills, does anyone know why this bug is happening? Thanks. :)
Syro System 11 Nov, 2020 @ 2:35pm 
I think it was some sort of conflict between 2 reveal animations. You see her "shimmer" when she is running in to swrod while stealthed, and she is revealed during the melee animation.
However, taking damage also reveals her, so it probably tried to play 2 overlaping animations and got hung up.
Mr. Nice  [author] 11 Nov, 2020 @ 4:00am 
Maybe, hard to say, probably too late to test now, but if you use `X2DebugVisualizer` at the console you can see if some visualization is currently running (ie, do you see a tree/flow chart kind of thing in the overlay or not!)
Syro System 11 Nov, 2020 @ 3:05am 
Had a weird bug where the assassin ran into a mine while invisible (trying to move in to sword strike my soldier) and the game soft locked and I had to reload a save.
Is that the same kind of issue as this, or is it something else?
Requiem 12 Jun, 2020 @ 5:13am 
Experienced lockup with the Rifleman class during Hold The Line with this modenabled. Lockup was not resolved after several minutes and the client had to be restarted.
Daemonjax 6 Jun, 2020 @ 12:59am 
I had problems (would cause lockups) with this mod when I tried to add it mid-campaign and I had to remove it on that playthrough.

But it seems to work fine when added to a new campaign.
Rtma Eros Paragon 2 Jun, 2020 @ 9:09am 
Can confirm with strikerscharged, double Close Quarters Combat stalls the reaction period.
Rtma Eros Paragon 2 Jun, 2020 @ 7:08am 
I ended up reinstalling and after tweaking the mod values again, it's saved my Campaign.
Cypher10 31 May, 2020 @ 5:36pm 
To confirm the exact perks, have the infiltrator class's close combat specialist against an opposing elite (Yes, must be ELITE) Salarian. Move into each other's proximity, and the glitch will happen.
Cypher10 31 May, 2020 @ 5:21pm 
Have to confirm with Rtma. Any enemies that have similar close combat reaction shot passive, such as the salarian enemy mod, will result in a lockup if another opposing unit has a close combat passive reaction shot triggered at the same time. Unfortunately, the problem persists even with this mod installed.
Hsieh.E 28 May, 2020 @ 6:24pm 
If you aren't using the alternative mod launcher try it out, might sort out the issue, other than that it seems like your mod of "Additional Enemy Perks" might be the cause of the issue. Good luck!
Rtma Eros Paragon 28 May, 2020 @ 2:13pm 
[0309.04] Warning: Redscreen: Found an invalid effect state object ref (ID 99936) in element 0 of the statmods array for stat of type (3). This may be the result of loading an old save, or a gameplay failure. Assign to: Josh Bouscher
[0309.04] EUAimRollsVis: Notif event requested
[0309.04] RPG: X2Effect_CloseEncounters PostAbilityCostPaid kAbility.SourceWeapon 141364 141363
[0309.04] ScriptLog: === Trigger for F_LickYourWounds
[0309.04] ScriptLog: F_LickYourWounds event AbilityActivated (PistolReturnFire) = AA_InvalidAbilityName
[0309.06] ScriptLog: === Trigger for F_LickYourWounds
[0309.06] ScriptLog: F_LickYourWounds event AbilityActivated (CloseCombatSpecialist) = AA_InvalidAbilityName
[0309.10] Log: X2TacticalGameRuleset_0 TurnPhase_UnitActions: Available Actions: Done waiting for New States
[0309.10] Log: X2TacticalGameRuleset_0 TurnPhase_UnitActions: Waiting for Visualizer: 1.5
[0313.97] Log: X2TacticalGameRuleset_0 TurnPhase_UnitActions: Waiting for Visualizer: 2
Rtma Eros Paragon 28 May, 2020 @ 2:13pm 
I don't know where to post this or what's responsible but since this deals with Overwatch related mechanics I'll give this a try, my game keeps getting stuck in a close Quarters shot that doesn't fire, was wondering what one can do about this?
Lampros 5 May, 2020 @ 6:47pm 
And wow, almost 32,000 subscribers! I recall only a few dozen subscribers when I quit playing last time. I am glad I pleaded with Mr. Nice for this mod! ;)
Lampros 5 May, 2020 @ 6:46pm 
Good thing this seems still working - I don't think I'd want to play again without it! ;)
Dragon32 3 May, 2020 @ 12:28pm 
@goDelimS
I added this mid-campaign fine; like you say just make sure it's not a mid-tactical save.
goDelimS 3 May, 2020 @ 11:29am 
Hey there quick question this mod should work fine with Stop Wasting My Time – WotC right?
I am just making sure since both mods seem to affect overwatch stuff.
Also is it ok to install this mid-campaign (Of course, not while in tactical mode)?
Mr. Nice  [author] 27 Apr, 2020 @ 10:50am 
I'm a descriptivist, not a prescriptivist, so put that in your basket of 10 items or less :steammocking:
Lash LaRue 26 Apr, 2020 @ 9:05pm 
Maybe I'm just old, but PLEASE: IT ISN'T "LESS" IN THIS CASE, IT'S "FEWER"!!!
adampcloth 30 Dec, 2019 @ 3:23pm 
Hi Dragon,
I use the AML already and it didn’t flag any conflictions with this mod and any others. I am running 106 in total though, mainly qol.

I’ll use the guides and see if they throwbup anything.

Thanks for the help.

Adampcloth
Dragon32 30 Dec, 2019 @ 1:37pm 
@adampcloth:
Possibly a conflicting class override. Grab the Alternate Mod Launcher which should identify.
Details and some great Mod Troubleshooting advice here.
This guide gives some more detailed advice on using the Alternate Mod Launcher: Troubleshooting: Mods not working properly / at all
adampcloth 30 Dec, 2019 @ 1:00pm 
Hi, I am running WoTC on a HP Envy with windows 10 64 bit that has a NVidia MX150 GPU. If I use this mod the GPU only uses 50% processing power and the game slows concidrably. All the other mods I run are fine.
HjAa 9 Oct, 2019 @ 9:07am 
Saviour. Thanks. <3
Wall Street Wizard Pelosi 29 Sep, 2019 @ 2:03pm 
I have no idea what your mod did but I just passed the mission successfully after loading that overwatch scene ! Thank you ! Thank you so so much !