@mr_trousers yeah that makes sense about the empires taking up slots, but you can easily get around that by playing on a larger map/using mods that increase the total number of slots.

Okay everyone! We uploaded the new version!
As previously stated, we made a separate upload to leave this one as a legacy for 2.8 players.
If you want to play this mod on 3.0, head HERE
We also added support for the brand new Dynamic Mod Menu which removes the "open mod menu" edict to clear a bit the edict list ;)

Haha nice :P

Yep, almost immediately after posting that they cropped up haha.

@Spikem59 Make sure to have at least 2 systems, one planet with 10+ pops (capital should do the trick), and NOT be a subject (so scion is a big nono). After you fulfill these requirements, a corp should spawn in the next 2 years

How long does it take for a corp to appear? I'm a few years into my game and so far haven't seen any corporation related stuff. Contact screen is still empty.

Revolutions and Ethics is what creates infinite screens to pop up.....

It is very unlikely it was this mod causing the empty event screens, probably a different mod that was not yet updated for 3.0. We haven't gotten that issue at all in our updating for 3.0 as Potato said, but it *is* a possible issue when new updates come out, and certain mods are broken in certain ways.

@CactusJuice This would probably be possible to implement, but I see one major problem with it, in that if you force spawn these corporate empires and then the mod turns them into sub-national corp subjects, they still took up spots as full empires during game init and you're now out however many empires in your galaxy as you force spawned corps. That seems like a big downside.

Would it be possible to add an option to make two force-spawned empires have a parent nation-subject corporation relationship?

For example you could force spawn UNE, but then also create a custom empire that is "tied" to UNE when it spawns via a pair of civics or origins. Mods like Distant Origin and Federation Origins have similar features, but they let you spawn independent nations/federations, not corporate subjects like this mod does.

The idea of having randomly spawning corporations is interesting, but I'm curious if it'd be possible to customize those corporations in the empire creation, and then force spawn them.

I've seen the empty screen thing before with cbshing's origins mod from back before origins were a vanilla thing. It was tied to a setting/condition iirc, a specific species trait. Even if this mod doesn't deal with species traits (it probably doesn't, but I don't know what janky things may be going on in the background), it may be some other setting causing it. Also, take this with several grains of salt because I am just trying to remember that from 1-3 years ago off the top of my head. I can probably head back to the mod page and find my conversation regarding it, if necessary.

Wow that's new. I never even had that problem while working on the update haha
Anyway, we think that we should be ready to upload tomorrow (#nopromises)
We are also thinking of letting this mod for 2.8 and uploading a new one for 3.0 (because there will be people that don't like the 3.0 update, so letting them at least have the actual version of the sounds nice)

currently not compatible with 3.0.1. it triggers infinite empty event screen every day

Wow this looks really awesome! thank you for this, it looks like alot of fun!

@EchoDelAbyss Currently just random. We will be looking at how to flesh out different corp types further in future updates.

@xaviercorothers That could be an interesting idea to explore. Corporate colonies is an idea we're interested in but still thinking about the best way/the feasibility of implementing. I think I'll take a look at if that idea could work!

Maybe corporate colonies could work like how primitive civilizations work. Autonomous, but not independent planets within the players controlled space. Corporations could even upgrade (some) of their stations into habitats. (again, limit how many)

so are corp types random or do certain things get them to form?

Haha we considered using the HQ deposit level as a soft cap indeed :P

I'm sure you guys would have a better more engaging idea; but a thought off the top of my head could be to limit station count to double the HQ level of the corp.

The mod isn't yet updated for 3.0 :P
We are working on it!

@StarKelp Yeah, we are thinking of changing how stations work to remove that issue. Nothing certain yet

Corps of other factions are impossible to contact, which results in an inifinite loop for the first contact process. Not hard to just ignore them, but I doubt the AI is smart enough to clue in to that.

This is working shockingly well in 3.0, consider me impressed. Been using it alongside the new dlc for even more new content.

I don't have too many concrete thoughts so far, other than two things related to them building stations:

A: Perhaps show a base value of some sort in the policy menu?
B: It should maybe get more expensive after each one, beyond the first. If it isn't already. It feels like any secondary corps that spawn in my empire never get a chance to truly claim stations, as the primary corp already monopolized everything.

I think I'll try to boost up the price of them to max from start to see if that helps.

Permissions stuff: Maybe ? It would need some new UI probably and kinda annoying to do. Not sure if that's that useful. Maybe just adding systems that shouldn't be surveyed (like precursor) could do the trick

@Diettinger Glad you love it!

Idea #1 Right now there is no way to affect the market price, and only dirty ways to get the market price. Although converting resources to money using that price could be an interesting idea indeed. (Keep in mind that the corps have no AI, we have to script all of their actions :P)

Idea #2 There is no little profit! And corps have a boost to resource mining (mainly due to not being affected by difficulty bonuses). Making them prioritize bigger sites could possibly decrease performance, we would have to do some tests

Idea #3 IIRC we had a kinda similar idea, but I'm not sure that it would bring a lot of fun to the player (a tiny bit of immersion maybe?)

Request #1 That's really difficult to make it work properly in stellaris while keeping a good performance. The "previous" mod iicso wanted to do that, but Stellaris isn't really adapted for it

But I love this mod!!!

Also... perhaps a set of permissions for corporations to perform specific activities. Call them licences. Possibly granted on a system or asset level...

The below was truncated... :)

Idea #2: corporations only target mines which are of a minimum size. Corporations would naturally try to maximize profit so they would only develop lucrative sites. This prevents them from mining out entire systems which is annoying.

Idea #3: As systems are surveyed by the nation the system could be 'listed' for development and corporations could bid on the system to develop its resources.

Request #1: any chance you could make resource inventories more localized and then use corporate (or nation) shipping to move them about to where they are needed... with a cost and a profit of course.

Just a suggestion: corps which produce raw materials (minerals, food, etc) ought to sell that product into the market and pay taxes on their income. It would cause a downward pressure on the market price which would affect their incomes and keep those corps under control to a degree.
Corps which make finished products ought to buy their inputs from the market and sell their outputs into the market. This would also affect their P&L and the taxes they pay.
One of the interesting effects this has is that when the player sets a controlled buy in the market it will prompt corporations to increase their mining and manufacturing... and when a controlled sell is placed on the market it would slow the development of corporate mines.

Just wanna drop by, and say thanks for the hard work, and dont stress so much, life comes first.

Oh I see , that's what I thought , maybe a dirty hack might be useful but as long as their taxes are added to the "global treasury" that's fine ! Thanks for the answer !

@=7Cav=AR.Dubois.F In vanilla, tributaries (and not vassal) give you energy and minerals indeed (25%).
In our mod, the corps also give you (taaaaax) resources (energy, minerals, food, CG, alloys) based on their benefits in that resources (minerals should be > 0 most of the time, energy can be negative if they have many fleets). And you can determine the tax rate (from 0 to 60% of the benefits).
The only downside is that the taxes aren't displayed in monthly earned :(
(we could maybe do a dirty hack in 3.0, not sure)

One question , does the corp that spawns in your empire pays pays you a tax the same way vassals in this game does ? Like they give you a certain percent of what they have in credits an minerals ? If yes does it shows up in the monthly credits / minerals earned ? Thanks !

Not yet. It doesn't look completely broken, but things are a bit weird to fix right now

Does this work with 3.0?

@SANS You can close borders to the overlord of the corps. Adding a policy "don't create corps in my country" sounds like a good idea for multiplayer yeah :)

I liked your modification (but the friend I play with does not like the fact that corporation ships are constantly flickering on its territory) is it possible to make a decree or a policy prohibiting corporation

Thank you for the quick response!

@Doven-NeeUse Yes!

does the AI use this ?

@Spitfire Haha :P Not gonna lie, compatibility patch are going to sadly have to wait (3.0 + mooooooods + IRL stuff).
Your issue should be relatively easy to fix: you only have to change the scale of "cargo_transport_containers_mesh" (and the other 2) located in Stellaris/gfx/models/ships/other/_other_meshes.gfx (haven't looked for the other 2)

@TheFlyingPotato also i'd be nice if you could also make in compatible with the downscaled ship mod, it's not a big deal but it just sometimes annoys me when i see a transport ship the size of my battleship

@Spitfire I'm going to look into that. No promises though!

@malthric Not right now! Maybe in the future? Although it would probably still cost influence

can the corporations expand your empire without costing your influence

hey can you make so the coorperation of my empire use the same ship set that i use? i use the machine shipset it's not a big deal but it's kinda annoying

@Phoryx Did you get vassalised? That sounds really strange

@TheFlyingPotato Thanks this update will really improve this mod

I was more thinking of some special thing if you change your government to megacorp, maybe if you have a really good relationship with one megacorp or something.

Can the Corps eventually be integrated into our own empires? Started a game but not yet far enough to know.

oh my god i've been looking for a mod like this

I think it would be cool to have a "Nationalization" Event for integrating companies. Just an idea.

We haven't discussed anything like that yet, but it's a possibility. What sort of interactions would you find interesting?