NPC mods seem to break this. Trying to use it alongside Bandits and PZNS quickly makes my character insane within the first game hour. I don't seem to have this problem without them.

@ExXanAbuser If that mod don't use the sanity stat it should be fine otherwise it might mess up the sanity value I haven't tested it

Is this compatible with schizophrenia mod and nuerodiverse?

So, I were standing in front of the fridge, deciding what to eat, and I start bleeding. I were like, oh my, what happened, maybe I bit my cheek or something. So I bandage and go to the toilet to pee. As I get up, start bleeding again. And I were asking myself, when the hell did I add a mod for that time of the month, kinda confused. But I bandage again, and from there I go to change my clothes. Standing in front of the dresser, I start bleeding again. And I'm like, what the actual hell, did something get stuck in the zipper or what. Anyways, I bandage AGAIN, and make my way to check on the generator. On my way there, I see the pop up *inflicts self-harm*, and I'm like oh my lordy ! At least now I know why I kept on bleeding. That's deep dude. Amazing mod ! Thanks for making my character suffer my teenage years. :D

Gandhi must not have had this mod installed

do you recover any sanity or its only a helterskelter down hill?

"What are your settings?" which settings are you referring to, the custom sandbox settings related to the mod? sorry for the double post there's a 1000 character limit per comment.

Hey man its me again. Sorry I missed your responses. I will test it again and see if I can replicate the issue I was having. Thats the one thing I didn't try. I'll do a full manual uninstall of all related files in the steamapp/workshop/content directory as well as the mentioned %appdata% files for it. If that dosn't work I will run the batch file to monitor the logs myself and send you anything strange that occurs. I have the full version of the Simple Status Mod running [Workshop ID: 2867431511] do I need to use the beta version for it to display? I remember reading an earlier comment of yours talking about it being needed. I'm also using about 150+ other mods also so I may have some unknown conflict happening but I cant think of anything off the top of my head that might directly effect the deterioration of sanity. I run about 5-6 other mods that also run off of the moodleframework mod so I'll start with those and see if anything is happening there! I'll be in touch!

@ROCKY sounds good, looking forward to it lolol while you're at it plz make another balanced option too cuz I WILL enable it and lord knows I love $hit and insanity XD

'Inferno 3 Jan @ 12:06am
Please multiply the brain damage when eating poop. haha.'

will do XD

'The entire population of Russia'

yeah that's quiet strange. I think I did notice that while testing in DEBUG. I noticed that it only happened when speeding up time. My mod doesn't change thirst... It only saves all the stats to its own table for later reference. This might be because at high speed the function overloads the stats module since requesting the stats so much ? not sure. If, I remember correctly without looking at my code, I probably need to add a safety feature which will check if a second has passed or something ;]

>) - I removed it that if you crap your pants after an hour you char will get -sanity

I might add an option or trait maybe to make it OP like that

You can't remove traits sorry

If you have an error would be best if you send me the debug log and I will fix it, when I play I didn't experience any bugs. Only thing is that could cause this issue, I can think of is - You played the previous mod version before it got completely rewritten. This mean you would have to manually go into the folder locations in %appdata% and when unsubbing also searching for this id '2883974010' to remove any remaining files. Someone told me the exact files you want to remove but I can't seem to find that message anywhere and I don't remember where it was. But, this is only the case if you played the first versions of the mod.

What are your settings?

For whatever reason I cannot get this mod to work. Tried 100 different ways, Unsubbed and resubbed 100 times, Fiddled with the mod load order in every order possible I could think of, swapped out the simple status mod for the beta version, Changed the minimum mean to 15 and gave my character a bunch of traits to drain his stats fast and still nothing. The Moodle never shows up(Yes I have moodleframework) and even on the verge of death with my character depressed, starving and bored out of his mind, my sanity meter doesn't budge. Any help or advice would be great. Let me know if any further information would help.

oh and btw I happened to scrolled through ur reply about some function u disabled? might I add I would love to see u re-enable it, for I wouldnt mind some insanity should my character shat themselves lol as long as the insanity wasnt too much nor too unbalanced

@ROCKY I appreciate all the efforts you put into this great mod! I dropped outta pz for a while, and now I'm back and be greeted with such massive improvements!

I'd considered this mod a must-have, even tho it does adds (or say "re-active") some new mechanics into the game but still I enable it every playthrough. And with u rewriten bits of it now its even more so as a must-have! since I'm back to pz I figured I shall cherrish the feces along side insanity lololol

How to get rid of the trait?

Please multiply the brain damage when eating poop. haha.

First of all, fantastic mod! It's great to see more moodles to manage, and adding an effect to long-term stress and depression is a welcome change. I really appreciate the huge impact that fatigue has on sanity - really nice touch!

I've noticed something in testing though, and it's a rather bizarre bug. With the mod enabled, after my character drinks, they uh...never need to drink again. Their thirst just stops building for some reason. I've been using Cheat Menu to manage my moodles while testing, but running Cheat Menu without the Sanity mods doesn't cause any problems with thirst, meaning it's either an incompatibility or some kind of bug. Tested it on a fresh world afterwards and haven't encountered any issues yet, but I thought I'd bring it to your attention.

In terms of feedback, have you considered having panic contribute to sanity loss? I imagine periods of extended panic could quickly drain sanity, and would be a good way to have extended combat mentally drain a character.

excuse me can i get more sanity?

Oh I did remove that feature that if you was in a smelly room or if you wet yourself it will bother you, and it will make you insane, it still gonna effect you sanity but not as much as before. Is that what you mean? I can bring it back for you so you can enable it if you want it.

from 40% to like 15% if you want it extra hard, I just made it not easy to become insane. with 40% that mean your stats have to be like 70% hunger 70% unhappiness. I made it like that as default because it was near impossible for some in difficult scenarios

Yo can change the minumun mean values for it to change. Set that value to like 25 or even lower that will mean you will have to keep mean stat value of 75 but you might even want to set it to lower since it takes into account values such as smoking.

Idk is not working, i add all mods included beta simple status, It shows sanity bar, but being unhappy or stressed even in a dirty room using excrementum mod doesnt alter the sanity bar it always stay at 100%

https://prnt.sc/GrA0_OAnSE9m this is the picture

@Liberian Batman, Yes download the [BETA] version of simple status. you no longer need to use my version as the original creator made sanity visible by default

@>) I made it less broke now removed the excessive panic attacks for now as I rewritten the code from scratch to optimise it and make it more realistic. Now you can set in sandbox settings how many days in the row your character has to be in a bad mood for them to go insane.

I changed it so that you can set the distance of the mumbling.

mumbling can be heard from very far away like 30 tiles. You are instantly dead when you are hiding in high pop area cuz single mumble is enough to attract every zombie that is in line of sight.

It's the same for me as the other mod and i have no clue why

Also I'm not sure if it's the mod itself or some other mods broke it but the panic attacks and nightmares are still there even the settings were off in multiplayer.

Great mod, but imho it could uses a bit of balancing and some ways to regain or combat the sanity loss, especially when pairing with trait mods like dynamic traits and even more traits.

The problem being every hardship just keep on adding the insanity, meanwhile there's not a thing to cope with sanity directly which makes it dropping like a lightweight drinker after two bottles of vodka during any tight corner. And with mods that are dynamic in traits or ultilize these negative effects as well, things could go deep south real fast.

My character deprived to complete sanity within 17 hours, he was experincing muscle fatigue in the morning from exercise then he held his pee in afternoon, and before the clock hits eleven he's already doing self-harms at night.

He started his day intact but he ended his night in never-ending panic attacks, trying desperately to sleep but kept failing miserably due to his aching body and crippling anxiety. All because some exercise and bladder lol

my game is crashing.....

Do I have to use simple status for this to work?

Basically that's supposed to stimulate having sanity panic attacks during this period you hear the whispers and panic is set at 50 until that segment of the whispers finishes some segments are shorter than others so you must of been stuck on the 3 min one I believe, also, if you don't manage your panic before next segment begins yes true you could be stuck in a infinite loop. But that's the whole point you can't just keep killing zombies in low sanity because you should prioritise calming down and trying to go to sleep.

With this mod, for some reason we can't sleep at a point. Like, Sanity is recovered by sleeping and stuff yet it won't let us sleep. The panic starts from %60, decreases to %40 and then instantly jumps to %60 repeatedly. Keeps doing it. We could not sleep for hours because of panic. Is it intentional or a game-breaking bug?

Thank you for telling me tho appreciate the feedback

@OzanFlnn Imma update his code tomorrow so it show sanity, and upload the beta version... He needs to add the sanity value to his mod tho so I don't have to update it every time he releases a new version

Hey there sir, so a Beta version of Simple Status mod just dropped out, being even better than before. Is there a possibility you could make your mod compatible with theirs therefore we can keep seeing Sanity stat as well as using that mod? I'm normally using a mod named "Simple Status + Sanity", otherwise there's no way I could see it.

Simple Status Beta
https://sp.zhabite.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2966174784&searchtext=simple+status
Workshop ID: 2966174784
Mod ID: simpleStatusBeta

I have to unfortunately stop using this mod since it just breaks the panic values way too much unless your character is desensitised. Even Beta blockers don't work properly because of it.

Please consider looking into it whenever possible.

This also could just be a 'blessing' in disguise for a kind of 'Fear' mechanic however.

WOW! You did that so fast!

Thanks for that. Well deserved up vote

As for the extensive testing so far, I've noticed one BIG issue with how panic is handled.

Excluding the Desensitised Trait. It seems if your character gets over their Insanity, it doesn't revert back to the original panic values. Meaning, if you go to even face 1 zombie, you become instant 4th lvl panicked. Even the Brave trait suffers from this. Making the 70% reduction worthless. It just doesn't seem to go down.

So I think somewhere in your code that changes when you get to at least tier 3-4 Insanity, making your character panic to sounds. It somehow seems to change or delete the original panic values when up against a zombie.

Hope this helps! Thanks again for improving your mod!

Done, you should now find a sub-mod in the MoodleSanity mod called MoodleDesc, when you turn it on it will show you the percentages.

Hey dude, thank you so much for this underrated mod! Adds just that bit more depth.

Going to test it thoroughly in MP.

One request if you're still working on it, but is it possible to add compatibility with the "More Description For Moodles" by any chance? I would like to see the drastic effects the moodlet has and percentages.

https://sp.zhabite.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2763647806

Keep it up. I'm sure with enough time, this mod will get more attention.

I've improved the mod a lot more, currently there is still an issue I found I will fix another day, without the issue fixed the mod is easier anyway and it won't effect the game-play after it's been fixed. But if anyone find an issue they have with the mod please message me or here so I can fix it

Hello, I like your mod very much, but if it is allowed, can you update the content you want to update at one time? which means frequent restarts for the server, and it takes more than ten minutes to restart, which is undoubtedly a problem for players Trouble, thank you for such a great mod!

@Frank I think I fixed your issue now you will attract zombies when you are on low sanity so the sound won't be for long

@Sir Shmoopy I'm not sure I don't think is a problem with the mod

@Carlos, I addressed your suggestion and I've change the image to a one that suits it more if you have any other suggestions then I can do that, you think I should make a option to turn it off? I think the one I changed it to is alright so maybe there is no need.