is it just me or the axe kind of weak? my cactus rib (expanded wood working) club I made early in my tribe naked brutality run is doing more damage then a stone axe I recently made even if it has more durability

Do the weapons have quality or not, getting confused messages from the comments here

@Roofpizza
I don't know about wealth but you might be interested in "Ignorance is bliss" to prevent unfair raids by advanced factions
https://sp.zhabite.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2554423472

Is there any other mod that interacts well with this one to control wealth growth? Having to fight against 15 raiders with assault rifles with my neolithic tribe is a little silly... only way to survive becomes buying weapons or taking them off of dead raiders and then your own tech becomes obsolete

The (lead) heavy club seems to be OP. I don't have the Royalty dlc so I can't compare it to other blunt melee but the only thing I've come by that is an improvement is laser swords (from VE laser weapons.)
Later game needs a good blunt weapon like this but for early game this should be nerfed a little (unless blunt is secretly way worse than the DPS and armor pen shown.)
Also it is described as 2 handed, but you can equip shields with it.

@ A New Player Maybe for capturing pawns without injuring them too much? And stopping prison breaks without having to cut off arms & legs

Not really sure what the point of the light club is. It's weaker than a piece of wood unless it's made of uranium. No quality means no chance of being better.

The heavy club looks the club for the wraith from dbd

is this mod integrated with Vanilla Factions Expanded - Tribal?

i subscribed this mod, played 3 playthroughts... unsubscribed. THESE FIRE BOMBS HUNTS ME IN MY NIGHTMARES. The total reason of my demise. Later in game spawns like 20 people with fire bombs and the whole map starts burning.

How do u turn off base game weapons like lets so i download this mod how do i set it so that other factions/ai dont have gun weapons such as shotguns and stuff

could you please add staff sling

Definitely not caused by this mod. 100%.

Hey is this mod causing issues for anyone where once you pick up a weapon you cant draft your colonist anymore? Anybody know the solution?

could you please add staff sling ?

the creator of the mod simply has to make the shiv unable to be composed of chitin? is that possible?

Here to complain about the shiv .... a 44% chitin shiv has 10.44 dps or so .... my excellent plasteel knife is 10.55 ......

@maniac1168 Oscar mentioned "It’s intended. Those are simple clubs and shiva."

yeah this sub-mod is irredeemably broken. Weapons display no quality, and shivs are significantly better than master crafted proper weapon.

The especially problematic shiv I mentioned has a 0.6 second cooldown because the chitin material has a 60% cooldown modifier. Maybe that's the thing that's busted?

The shiv is definitely broken, it's a super cheap weapon that easily outpaces swords and knives. It shouldn't deal 8 damage every .6 seconds.

is there a chance you can add javelin-thrower / spear-thrower like weapon that have vary long ranged and good dmg but need high/vary high shooting skill to hit. maybe need long bow research to craft

https://gist.github.com/6daec32cd1636e56d9f9d6eddd00f598

Shiv's have a cut cooldown of 0.6 and stab cooldown of 0.9. This is a both too fast for melee attacking and not the advertised speed so either it's an unintended update, or something is broken.

This is xml only, so theoretically it should work with 1.4 unstable.

There should also be a Fustibalus.

Does this require Vanilla Weapons Expanded or no?

@Vick Tribals can tame boomalopes.

Pleaaase buff the sling, it's insanely underpowered. IRL, a skilled slinger can hit a target with the same energy as a .44 Magnum.

Is this ummm *looks at mod description* compatible with the mod that makes weapons and health system more realistic?

When I look at the dps under the Melee damage area, the numbers are moving constantly for the dps slot, is that a bug?

I think clay pot should't be use chemfuel as the material because chemfuel is way further tech for tribe to use, I suggest we should make some raw fresh for bio-oil in order to craft this weapon.

Heavy club it too strong, actually better than warhammer made of the same materials. Is there anything I'm missing?

I feel these weapons need a balance check to make them fun alternatives instead of cheaper, stronger weapons that require less research, as they are now. I can't justify these being stronger than other weapons.

Can the Light Club be made usable with shields? It even says in the description its used with one hand.

we are twins dogey

dont be fooled by the simplicity, a chitin shiv does more dps than a plasteel knife.

Wednesday I see funny how people complain, Thanks for your mods they are very good, ignore people who have no notion of how much time one spends creating and maintaining these mods, I speak this through the comment of Artur_The_Third, I leave a little annoying how there are people misplaced

Not sure if this is intended, but it looks like all of these weapons aside from the sling are missing the neolithic weapon class. NBD but it causes them not to grant the mood buff for wielding a preferred weapon if you have the corresponding ideology. Was able to fix it myself by editing the def but thought you should know! Thank you for all the great work!

That heavy club is no joke man! Boy o boy, it was really fun beating the snot out of raiders with that thing. The high damage means plenty of permanent damage going on! Very satisfying weapon lol

Thanks Oskar!

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It’s intended. Those are simple clubs and shiva.

Hi, This is a really great mod but there seems to be bug where my clubs and shivs dont have quality.

Start breeding boomalopes.

Could you change the recipe for fire bombs? Most tribals don't exactly have access to chemfuel, which means the fire bombs are only really useful later in the game, where you might as well use molotovs.

What? No, this is not how it works. I don't care about the bug because I can't fix the bug, because I'm not responsible for the CE patch. CE people are, they patched it.

I have big 'This mod is CE compatible' at the top so people don't come here asking if it's CE compatible. I don't care about CE, I care about not having to answer the same question 50 times a day.

Well, you kind of have a big "this mod is CE compatible" banner at the top of the description, so i'd expect you to at least care about the bug a bit.

Just wanted to be sure, Thank You

Sling ammo? We don't add any ammo, why would the bug be on our end?

There is a bug when you craft sling ammo you use up the resource but you don't get the ammo you crafted. Is this a combat extended mod issue or a tribal weapon expanded mod issue?

Are slings meant to hit through a shield belt's shields? Thought maybe it was intentional but then I didn't see it anywhere in the item description. Mostly they bounce off armour anyway but it seems they consistently go through the shield.