yes

@le_Dedfire guess Steam deleted you comment while I was answering in, but I've seen the photo.

yep, it is Ikarus 260 in Soviet yellow livery meaning it was delivered directelly to USSR, so it is extremely old one.
In Russia, Urkaine and Belarus you can also find such busses in other liveries, that is re-exported vehicles from other Europe countries. In Russia there were also white-blue or white-red liveries, wich mean that bus was inported in Russia after USSR collapsed. Also Ikarus 280 model was produced by license in Moscow, and these vehicles had green and cream livery. All them are gone, though, and these buses are extremely rare now, but I still love them

Yes, Wellington was the world's southernmost trolleybus system... As I get it, the problem was that the system is too far from the nearest trolleybus manufacturer, and it cost the island nation too much to maintain. But I still think it's a mistake, and it's kind of strange for such an environmentally concerned society as New Zealand. Interestingly, the northernmost trolleybus in the world, Arkhangelsk, also stopped working, but much earlier. By the way, Škodas 14tr also worked there.

Btw right now Budapest is getting rid of legendary Ikarus buses, it was the last year of operation for 2** and 4** models there.

It is quite sad to see trolleybus systems vanishing usually because of long time under-maintenance and then having all these problems cumulated facing big investments or closure - so they often go with the second. Like Wellington just recently. Fortunately my favourite spa town Mariánské Lázně handled the same quite well in 2015+ thanks to the town elections where a party with brain succeeded and started investing into the network for a change.

Aw damn that's cool as well, Vilnius just got rid of theirs silently in 2018 I think. It's a shame because the articulated B841 was my favourite bus, hopefully they won't do that so hastily with the 14-Tr

yeah, it wasnt the first time actually, I think we had something simullar with Karosa buses, but maybe it was just grafitti, who knows, it happened like 8 years ago

I hope Vilnius will have something similar to celebrate their service, Kaunas had a very cool idea

When the city of Kaunas ( second largest trolleybus system in Lithuania ) started removing the Škodas from service, we painted the Škodas in varios paintjobs, some random, while others we're city symbols : For example this trolleybuses painted the same way that are the walls of a famous cafe - Spurginė http://gyvossienos.kaunas.lt/wp-content/uploads/sites/44/2019/07/troleibusas-17.jpg The škodas were replaced by Solaris Trollino 12 ( this happened in 2020 smth )

As a person living right next to a trolleybus line, they're much better than normal buses, bcs they're cleaner, quiter ( even quiter to battery buses because of the noise of the weight caused by the heavy batteries )

The thing is in Lithuania the hype around the battery buses happened right before the Moscow eletric bus incident ( bassicly when we got news on the issues with the replacement ) and everyone just stopped talking about it

Despite our active protests, we failed to save the Moscow trolleybus, but I hope that the example of Prague, as well as the fact that not all of Moscow's trolleybus infrastructure has been destroyed, will allow us to restore the trolleybus in the future. I also hope that there is enough civic consciousness in Lithuania to prevent such things from happening.

I'm a bit sceptic about electric busses because they are not as eco-friendly and safe as it is portraid by their producers, and they much more expensive than autonomous trolleybus (or dynamically charging electric buses as they sometimes called). But as long as you chage diesel buses on electric vehicles I'm cool with it.

As you trully said, Moscow government destroyed the world largest trolleybus system,
hiding behind a replacement for the public with more "progressive" electric buses.
It was pure fraud: electric buses are more expensive and much less reliable than trolleybuses,
moreover, trolleybuses were produced in Russia on a full cycle,
and electric buses are assembled from Chinese components.
I repeat, this is a pure fraud of the Moscow authorities and they will answer for this before the court.

Tbf in Lithuania quite recently there was a lot of of hype about electric buses, as we actually have a small electric bus company ( Dancer ) and the city of Klaipėda ( the third largest city in lithuania, and it also doesn't have a trolleybus system ) so Vilnius and Kaunas ( the two largest cities, and the ones with trolleybuses ) tought of making big electric bus orders ( not specifcly from Dancer but some were planed ) but then we just forgot. In the end trolleybuses are still better, bcs it can get very cold and very hot in here, and we dont want to suffer from the same problem as moscow suffered when it replaced trolleybuses with electric buses ( The batteries cracked bcs of the comptraction, and expansion due to temperature change )

noticed that there would be a trolleybus to the zoo in Troja. That is the best zoo I visited, even comparing with Schonebrune in Wien. Hope when I be able to visit it again someday, there would be a nice trolleybus ride from Holeszovice

That looks like a great plan, godspeed with that! at least the start has been made and will confirmed.

speaking of Batumi: although it is the 2nd largest city by population and the 3rd largest city by area in Georgia, there were only two trolleybus routes here, and both went to the suburbs. In 1991-1993, the third route worked in city border, now it roughly corresponds to the electric bus route number 13. Among a buch of ZiU's there ran 16 Škoda 9Tr and 2
Škoda 14Tr. The trolleybus was closed in 2005 soon after Rose Revolution, along alother trolleybus systems in country and Tbilisi tramway system, due to economic reasons. Ironically the only trolleybus system of Georgia wich is still in operation is Sukhumi trolleybus in self-proclamated and Russian-occupied Abkhazia.

Well, Prague is still waiting for the trolleybus fleet. The 15 articulated trolleybuses for the first line should only arrive next year (maybe a prototype this year) and they still need to test the vehicle before it is allowed to transport passengers so the expectation is to fully transform bus line 140 to trolleybus line 58 sometime in mid 2023. Right now the line is still mostly operated by borrowed vehicles and only on weekends, but starting next week finally full length from Palmovka to Čakovice as the track is now complete: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083269656052&sk=photos
Work on Airport - Veleslavín line should begin in the coming days. And the remaining lines ... well, let's see about those as the plan is very brave: http://www.trolejbusyvpraze.net/Mapy/praha_trolejbusy_epocha2_etapa2.png

And sorry to hear about trolleybuses in those two cities (although I knew about Moscow).

that is possible. Anyways, I hope current trolleybus restoration in Praha will continue. I rode line 58 last time I visited the city, it was in 2017 or 2019, I'm not sure, but at the time there were only two vehicles on the line in testing mod. As I get it, today it is a regular service and city planning to establish more routes to run. This fact cheers me up as far as my own city completely destroyed its trolleybus system. Alas it is correct both for my home city (Moscow) and the city I live now (Batumi).

"I never connected Soviet invasion of 1968 and closure of trolleybus system in Praha in 1972"
Yeah, I think it was not directly related, even if it was politically motivated. But the lack of parts to maintain and build new lines in the eastern block and the fact buses are simpler contributed a lot. Some systems survived and indeed those further to the east probably thrived.

well, as for me, I truely love all Czech mass transit vehicles of the period. And these Skodas, both 9tr and 14/15tr, and Tatra T3 or T6 vehicles are the best for me

well we can all agree that Škoda go brrrrrr

agree, it is not correct to call any of Czech vehicles "Soviet", we say, some of them have "sovietness" or Soviet vibes, if we could say so. There even were a joke in Russo-Ukrainian transport community 10 years back, when someone called Tatra T3 "the best Soviet Tramway", we said "despite the similarity of abbreviations, CSSR and USSR are slightly different things. At least until 1968." I must say, I never connected Soviet invasion of 1968 and closure of trolleybus system in Praha in 1972 and that sound a bit strange for me, as Bratislava and Brno (second and third cities in CSSR by population) developed their systems nevertheless. Besides USSR itself massively developed trolleybus systems, and at that moment of time, I guess, 70-80% of world trolleybus ran within Soviet territory.

I know the history (well, some parts of it) and you are correct. Although I still wouldn't call a Czech made vehicle or anything "soviet" as technically we were not part of the soviet union. "Just" the eastern block and not really willingly considering what happened in 1968 (Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia).

From what I've read though Škoda 14Tr was supposed to be a successor of not so successful Škoda T 11 which predates 1968. Then after the invasion Škoda 14Tr was indeed on a drawing board, even a prototype was made but in early 70. the whole project was scrapped as communists wanted to get rid of trolleybuses overall and wanted to replace them with buses. Hence why some Czech cities like Prague, Děčín or České Budějovice ditched their systems in favour of buses (České Budějovice renewed the service after the Velvet Revolution and Prague is about to do so now). Only later did politics reconsider with the oil crisis and gave Škoda 14Tr a go again.

well, of course, speaking of 14/15tr model, not about Škoda as the enterprise itself. F.e. Škoda 9Tr trolleybus was sold to Norway (!), Afganistan and India, wich weren't "Soviet", and of cource, Škoda does exist today, but is not a major trolleybus builder, as the whole market is fullfilled with Solaris brand. But we speak about 14/15Tr model, for Baltic people and Ukraine they have a strong associations with Soviet times, occupation or rule, you name it. In Russia, on the contrary, there were no Škoda trolleys at all, untill Russian enterprise in Vologda ("Avangard") bouth the license to built this vehicles in 2000's, so these trolleybuses also not associated with sovietness

as far as I know, USSR didn't mass produced thiristor-drived trolleybuses, and the Škoda 14/15Tr was designed to fill mainely Soviet demand on such machines. The largest fleet of both models operated in Kiev, than there went Riga, Vilnius, Lvov and only then went Bratislava, so, yes, one can say "sovietness". the fact these models were produced after the collapse of the USSR, including being assembled under license in the USA, bonded with the enterprise's attempts to adapt to the new market reality after 40 years of deliveries for one customer. A similar situation has developed with Ikarus: the Ikarus 26* / 28* model has literally visited all continents except Australia and Antarctica. But this does not mean that the model was really up to date in 1980, 1990 or 2000, it means that there was a demand for this kind of vehicles. So, before the war, Lada sold the Niva all over the world, except for the USA, and people bought it, but not because it is a modern car.

Surprisingly I would say Škoda 14/15Tr was quite loud even in comparison to previous models: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBRHsITg7IE
However it was not that bad (some buses like Ikaruses were worse) and also I did/do like that distinct sound.

Though I am not sure you can call Škoda trolleybuses fit the "the sovietness". It was the eastern block, granted, but not directly Soviet as ZiUs for instance. Not to mention Škoda was producing trolleybuses before 2nd WW as well as after 1989. And this model (Škoda 14/15Tr) was producted till 2004 in its modern version. And a derivate got exported to the USA as well.

well considering trolleybuses were going pretty much at full speed, they were pretty ok (for noise ) at the time

well, Skodas 14tr were relatively silent as they used thyristor-drived control system in counter of inderect rheostat control of ZiU-682 and other trolleybus models of the 1970s, but yes, not as quite as modern electric vehicles

I remember hearing the trolleybuses roaring at high speeds from my room in summer ( the trolleybuses were pretty loud )

yep, alas, I haven't enough time to visit Kaunas back in 2018, when there still were that green Škodas

I kinda miss the Skodas

hmmm as a Kaunas resident going to Vilnius, seeing the old skoda trolleybuses bringed alot of nostalgia, the sound, the leather seats, and the sovietness ( Kaunas doesnt run the skoda trolleybuses anymore, theyre replaced by now )

Oh wow yeah that would be a very good idea, but sadly I don't think Vilnius government would do that - They are pushing for modernisation of the city. I might email them and suggest that though, who knows maybe they would like that. Also no problem, you make great mods! :)

well, I like the way Praha siezed Tatras T3 from service: they introduced the whole new 23 tram route operated solely by original Tatra T3 couples. 23 is basically a short version of magistral 22 route, that was very popular among turists, so it is a very wise solution in my opinion. I'm not to close with Vilnius trolley routes, but think, it would be nice to introduce tourist version of 3, for example. Thank you for review, I'm glad my works make people happy =)

That's true, though it would have been quite unique to keep these historic vehicles in use haha, not many cities do that. I think they will preserve some because they did that with the 9-Tr as well, you can rent them from the transport company. I have noticed some are in a lot better condition than others so I think those will be the ones they save. Even Kaunas has kept 6 of theirs in operating condition because they are able to clean snow off the wires in the winter while modern ones can't, so maybe some will be kept for that as well. I am also happy this mod can serve as a little tribute to them :)

(Sorry if I wrote too much :p)

the time has come for them. After all, this is 40 years old model. Hope city will preserve some for museum ridedes, though. I am happy that I found them in Vilnius and saved them for history in this way =)

Very sad that Vilnius is replacing these icons as soon as summer next year, at least they will live on in my CS cities

I know what Škoda 9Tr is but don't feel like I have time or aspiration to model this one =(

Can you build Skoda 9Tr trolleybus? It was iconic trolleybus in some USSR cities like Simferopol (they were driving there still in 2014).

Hello, I see, that you know how to do and upload new objects to cities skylines. And I really want in cities skylines Prague tram 15T and also trains from Prague metro- 81-71M and M1. It will be very fine, if you creaty this new objects for me and also for all players Cities skylines and upload it into steam workshop, thanks. :)

updated: vipers added, new specular map

Poles position fixed

Model updated.

Skoda 15tr is here.

Model updated, improved and optimised, capacity changed to 70.

The Functional Skoda 15tr will arrive tomorrow.

yep, I'm working on it. Hope will manage to publish 15tr this week =)

You may find this of an interest @kowkamurka: https://sp.zhabite.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2275749683 (but I guess you already know). As for myself I can't wait for a functional 15Tr trolleybus so if you can do it with this extension that would be gorgeous :).

I can, but you need to ask some Solaris bus author to do this, I guess. That would be quite easier

Hello
Can you do Solaris Trollino 15?