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0.0 hrs last two weeks / 0.0 hrs on record
Posted: 3 Sep, 2023 @ 2:44am

Alright, I gave this DLC a fair shot before I'm making this review, so keep that in mind. This isn't just me hopping on the bandwagon.
This DLC is pathetic.
When you buy this DLC, you get three figures: The Changeling, Yuan Bo, and Mother Ostankya. As characters, they're all pretty decent and pretty strong. But I bought this DLC for the campaigns, not for the characters the campaigns showcase.
The Changeling's campaign is a choose-your-own-adventure, and while I didn't personally get interested in the premise, I get there's probably some people who liked it. It seems to be well enough made, so I'll give a neutral opinion on that.
Mother Ostankya is a copy/pasted Grom the Paunch with the roster of those malevolent tree folks. Interesting premise, terrible execution. In Realms of Chaos she's not too terrible, but her campaign is relatively flavorless. But Immortal Empires? I don't care what excuses other people come up with, having a figure whose entire lore background is drawing on the power of the land of Kislev above all else *Not Start In Kislev* is just sad. That, and her hexes don't affect autoresolve, her recruitment is stunted by lack of units and streamlined by just how OP the ambushers are compared to everyone else, and her game-long goal is just too grindy with nowhere near enough flavor.
And finally, Yuan Bo. I did a full Realms of Chaos campaign with this guy.
Here's the breakdown.
- 2 cutscenes, one at the start and one at the end, with copy/pasted art in the first one and a single scene in the second one
- No required quest battles other than the final
- The final quest battle is a normal siege battle against a single lizardmen army; braindead easy
- No campaign completion reward aside from knowing you completed the campaign, unlike most other Realms of Chaos nations
- No fundamental change in the "unite Cathay and then kick chaos in the groin" experience the other Cathayan lords have
- Fundamentally the experience of the campaign was just a lite version of Warhammer 2's Great Vortex campaign
I hate to talk this much crap because I love the Total War: Warhammer series, but the appropriate pricing for this DLC is $10 tops. I needed to try it out just to see for myself, but for those out there who don't feel that brand loyalty need, steer clear. This one is not for you. Sorry.
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12 Comments
Awan 8 Sep, 2023 @ 5:59pm 
It'd wild - I really didn't think the pricing was that bad and I liked all the new characters but the lack of art and effort on each character's cutscene, using the models instead of the painted motion cinematics, really bothered me.
Samwiz1 8 Sep, 2023 @ 5:54pm 
Chief, someone was always gonna do it. I've got the cash to spend and in spending it I gain the right to talk crap about what I bought. Sure, my financial support still helps CA. But the fact that some people saw my review and decided not to buy when otherwise they might have done so is worth far more against them than my one purchase was for them. This is the way.
anolisjd1990 8 Sep, 2023 @ 9:15am 
Yet you still bought.... helping CA. I mean come on.... 1600 reviews.... still feeding CA greed.
Malvoiy 8 Sep, 2023 @ 7:01am 
Solid review, but your wrong about one thing, her hexes do affect auto-resolve.
Jonneixx 4 Sep, 2023 @ 5:21pm 
Very useful analysis, was considering giving in to curiosity and getting the DLC despite the backlash, but after reading your thoughts, it seems that the outrage is justified, not merely by the price increase, but by the meagerness and lack of depth of the DLC as well. Really unfortunate decision to chose this lackluster DLC as the flagbearer for the huge price increase.
Samwiz1 4 Sep, 2023 @ 3:27pm 
@Mastigos I have just under 4,000 hours across all three Total War: Warhammer games, and I got 100% achievements in the previous one. I've been around the block and—while I'm definitely not the best player and my skillset mostly lies in abusing the AI in campaign—I'm certainly no brainless noob. :secretweapon_hoi:
Blackstubaki 4 Sep, 2023 @ 3:01pm 
He has 395 hours on WH3 the time played is just broken on this post.
Mastigos 4 Sep, 2023 @ 12:44pm 
No time played. Another clown spouting ignorance and being praised for it.
Itharus 4 Sep, 2023 @ 11:57am 
Thanks for taking the time to actually review the DLC on its merits or lack thereof.
The Ash Heritor 4 Sep, 2023 @ 5:03am 
Yeah, CA needs to stop with the whole starting characters in random locations stuff.
With some, it's fine - like Lokhir, Changeling, Volkmar, and a few others (who either move around a lot in lore or have a compelling lore reason to start where they do), but ever since the Tomb Kings with Khatep and Khalida (at least in the Warhammer 2 campaign) starting in ridiculous locations, it's only gotten worse.
Indeed, Mother Ostankya starting not in Kislev is utterly beyond me. She might be the worst example of it yet.